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Soph's avatar

Great article! Being a (mostly) white Mexican, I've also noticed how these dainty, hyperfeminine aesthetics mainly feature white women. Ocassionally you'll see an East Asian girl too, because her pale skin and tiny frame is 'close enough'. But she can never look 'too Asian' either - many of them are wearing contacts and have dyed hair. Like you said, there have been *some* efforts to include POC in these aesthetics, but the change is never deep and fundamental. Arguably, it shouldn't even *have* to occur in the first place.

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reducing the impact of centuries of cultural ideas developed in asia in favor of a gross generalization that "they just want to be white" absolutely ruins this piece for me. america is a new country founded on racial conflict, from european colonizers going to war with the native indigenous people, to the literal building of the country by enslaved people from africa. that's 200 years, from the literal inception of the country, to build the current racial ideas/standards. however, asians have lived in their countries, among their ethnic groups, for multiple CENTURIES. from BC! do you not think the vast majority of their complex cultural ideas were developed during that time? east asian culture is extremely classist and hierarchy-based, which is highly reflected in the languages (different word forms depending on who you're speaking to, for example). the elites who had the privilege of staying inside, away from the sun, had paler skin. the lower class workers had darker skin from tanning in the sun. it would not surprise me if this subconscious idea still influences their beauty standards today, given it obviously affected their languages. when was the earliest significant interaction between white people and east asians that we can point to as establishing standards for today? probably not until the world wars. do you seriously think the conclusions that derive from hundreds of years of black and brown oppression on american soil can also be easily applied to the approximately 80 or so years of white american influence (and I'm using that liberally) on east asians? I hope not. I understand that there can be overlaps, similarities, and influences, but that gross reduction of the centuries of asian culture is awful and jarring, as though they had no ideals before the white man told them what ideals they should have. people of color can also be harmful in their own cultural way, especially when their countries are geographically far from europe and america, and they have a well documented history of their societal development before white people even knew of their existence. I like to keep in mind that american racism is somewhat unique because of the country's unique creation, and that white people are not the creators of the world, no matter how hard certain parts of society try to convince you they are. (which I'm not saying you are, just saying in general.)

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